Subject: we could even call it README! (from POPi) Date: 1996/03/04 Newsgroups: alt.drugs.chemistry There are folks who may browse Our Lady Internet for fun or curiousity... And more of them have an interest in psychoactive recreation than the PinkBoys and poweRangers would have us believe. As the Net expands, more lurkers slip quietly in, and occasionally one may have an inquiry. And we often flame them mercilessly. WHY? There are a number of reasons: 1. Because we are a selfRighteous, arrogant bunch. This can easily be explained. The majority of us at ADC are Amerikan males. That's just the way it is, and if you don't like it, Fuck You. If you think we're bad, check out the dittoBoys at alt.limbaugh.worship. 2. They deserve it. Totally stoopid questions draw incendiary acsii. Welcome to the InterNet. 3. Not everybody is aware of the fact that we live in a policeState, under a New Improved Interactive Consitution, that freedom of speech and privacy are now passe', and in light of this new Telecommisseration Axe, answering certain questions in particular ways could get one or more in a LOT of trouble, felonious even. The fact that many are ignorant of such things may be tragic, but not necessarily their fault... the Amerikan propaganda and SPAM machine is pretty heavyDuty after all, especially if you were brought up on regular doses of the television drug. It is to the third variation that I wish to address this post, and suggest we lay out some guidelines to faciliate continuation of the free flow of informayshun through/from this group, lest we become twisted, clannish and inbred. And it is to the casual observer, lurkers and Newbies that I wish to speak... They CAN get their questions answered around here, if they are polite and know how to ask, I am suggesting we show them how to ask up front. I would like to hone this thread into a streamlined cohesive set of no-brainer guidelines and post it consistently and consecutively so that we don't have to keep explaining the same limitations over and over. After all, it is usually just a matter of syntax, and most onLine folks, outside of AOL, are at least marginally familiar with the concept of syntax or they wouldn't have gotten this far. I'm going to Emale this around prior to posting, but it would be most fun, I think, to carry on the discussion here on USENET. This is NOT a FAQ, rather instructions on how to use ADC as the legitimate resource that it is, despite the scorn of tight-asses and old-fashioned Federalists, Tories, and powerFreaks. By the authority vested in me by the Interational Drug Psychosium, Napoleonic Council for Democratic Delusions and Dept of Auditory Hallucinations... I pronounce myself as the allPowerful keeper of ADC law for as long as my attention does not deficit nor disorder, or until somebody else wants to do it. Why Bother? 1. You never know who is going to stop by. Imagine someone like Repke, Hoffman or Shulgin comes browsing through, and happens to catch us at our most irritated worst, acting like a bunch of confrontational, boorish, Yoginacious, counterClockwise glorps.... they're going to keep on going, and I wouldn't blame them. 2. It is the righteous thing to do, and will help us distinguish between simply uninformed Newbies,and those who will never learn, can't read, are open season, OR any possible heat source, who should then appear obvious by their very use of entrapping language we have begged against. 3. Preserve bandwidth and redundancy, prevent corporal tunnel syndrome,etc. 4. Perhaps deter morons trying to make drug deals 5. Because unfortunately, I STILL don't have a life. This is something I have come up with to roll the ball starting. PLEASE give me some feedback if there is anything anyone might find objectionable or any improvements, additions, clarifications, the whole idea sucks, why don't you crawl back under your Norton and catch oil drops in your teeth, motorcycle punk, etc.etc.. speak OUT! Submittedfor ADC perusal SUBJECT: READ ME FIRST, BROWSERS NEWBIES v.1.0 ...............................Message body start.......................... FORMULATING QUESTIONS TO THE ADC NEWSGROUP... SYNTAX,ETTIQUETTE,APPROACH,GUIDELINES,PROHIBITIONS and pretty good advice ............................................................................. State the question in a recognizable form: *WRONG* >My friend got ahold of what is supposed to be MDMA, only it's Brown ! *RIGHT* Could someone please tell me what color MDMA should be? Can it be brown and still be OK? If the brown is from impurities, can it be dangerous? Thanks a head of time, -Jenk Jefferies ............................................................................. Be somewhat specific: *WRONG* >Does anybody know how to make speed ? *RIGHT* I am interested in learning about the synthesis of methamphetamine, can anyone suggest a good starting point. I have taken one chemistry class at community college. Good books? Net sites? library material? Thank you very much, -DBrown3@aol.mre ............................................................................. But not too specific, *WRONG* >Can someone tell me where to buy Palladium? NOTE: This sounds like someone asking for the name of a store or mail location. That sort of information is rarely distributed at ADC and never on request. This group is WATCHED. Recommending a righteous business to an unknown individual is a can of worms at least, does no favors, and is downright unethical. *RIGHT* Does anyone know of an OTC product from which I may be able to obtain palladium? Can it be obtained from chemical supply houses or elsewhere without gov't paperwork or scrutiny? Would appreciate any ideas on this. -Yenah Rd. ............................................................................. Be polite and reasonable: *WRONG* >What does synthesize mean, could you be more specific, why don't you just >friggin' tell us how to do it... you guys are FUCKED, MAN !!!! *RIGHT* If someone could perhaps recommend a good beginner's organic chemistry book with an emphasis on pharmacology, I would forever be their humble servant. -Ken Jasory NOTE: If you think shameless flattery or hi-Vac, suckAss, brown-nosing will get your questions answered and your archive decorated, you are absolutely right. These messages/articles/posts are generated by human beings. ............................................................................ . All questions concerning the synthesis of drugs which are currently illegal, must be phrased so that they are totally devoid of INTENT or ACTION. This is VERY important and violations never get anywhere. I repeat, this group is WATCHED! We all know that, now you do, too. *WRONG* >I'm trying to synthesize mescaline and wondering if someone could help me with >some information. *WRONG* >Can somebody tell me why our P2P/ Methylamine reaction just blew up in our >face? *RIGHT* I am interested in information about the synthesis of [DoC], here is some of the data I have gathered on the subject to date. Appreciate any info on procedures, precursers...but will settle for references. -mdBurr@nick.tea.net NOTE: the above example also illustrates the willingness of the inquiring party to CONTRIBUTE information to the group, accurately or not, this is hands down, the best way to spark a constructive and educational dialog at ADC, and `extract' essential information, for obvious reasons... this is a discussion group, not an ftp site. But be warned that flagrant trolls are usually flamed or ignored. Flame bait is ALWAYS ignored, and we take pride in that. ............................................................................ We guaranty that ANY attempts at illicit drug trafficking/bartering or chemical exchanges will be promptly and thoroughly flamed. Maybe there ARE places on the NET where people are stoopid enough to indulge in this jailBound activity, but the levels of intelligence and self-actualized paranoia at ADC are far and above anything that would permit suicidal commercialism. Insulting our intelligence yields predictable results. ............................................................................ It is safe to say that all of the above applies in personal Emales to ADC regulars, PGP or not. ............................................................................ . The above guidelines are for good reason and some are necessary to the survival of our group into the ominous future, which looms over the crossroad of democratic traditions and the reality of contemporary authoritarianism. They are not restrictive, they are for your protection and ours, and simply indicate a type of language we ask you to employ. If you share our interests and are willing to suffer these minor quirks along with us, we think you will find ADC a friendly, informative and fun group that welcomes enthusiastic newbies and casual browsers with good humor and respect (except where mutually exclusive). Thank you for taking the time to read this -the ADC Welcome Wagon 'Hell we even talk to he DEA around here.... we just aren't sure when.' ...............................Message body end............................ Don't be shy, folks, tell me what you think, I can take it. -POPeye